Starter replacement 187 4.3L VP

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Starter replacement 187 4.3L VP

Postby ddubose » Tue May 21, 2013 11:06 am

I have a 2004 187 LS Bower rider with a 4.7L VP. When I try to start it all I get is a clicking noise from the starter. Not sure if its the starter or the solonoid. The issue I'm having is I can't get to the starter because of the walk through transom on this model. It's vey tight. Does anyone have any experience on accessing and/or changing out a starter on this model? I'm hoping it doesn't involve going to the mechanic and pulling the engine.
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Postby AndrewT » Tue May 21, 2013 5:52 pm

Make sure the battery is fully charged and ok before ripping the starter out.
Double check the the terminals are clean, secure and tight both on the motor and the battery end.
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Postby ddubose » Tue May 21, 2013 8:27 pm

Thanks, did all of that. Tested the safety switch no issue has power when engaged. New battery,fully charged. Tested Starter relay, has power, tried jumping no results. Pulled wires from starter, cleaned and reinstalled. Still just clicks. Pulling the wires was very painful, I'm not sure about how to pull the starter bolts much less reinstall them.
Any ideas?
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Postby Yeah Bouy! » Tue May 21, 2013 9:07 pm

In short, replacing the starter is unpleasant, (simple, and doable) but unpleasant. I had to replace my starter in my 05' 187 with a mercruiser 4.3 last memorial day after I paid someone to replace it and they apparantly chose to "rebuild" it instead which did not work. One day in to the trip it stop engaging all the way and it had to be replaced. The procedure only requires two bolts to be removed and reinstalled with the new part but it is a Bi$ch! to get your hands down there and once you do get your hands down there you're working blind. It took me and two other guys taking shifts working upside down while we were on the lake for several hours to get it done. It's basically just awful because there is no room to work and its very difficult to see what you are doing at all, but doable. good luck/ I'm sympathetic.
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Postby taffy3 » Wed May 22, 2013 6:04 am

I buy marine starters and alternators from one and only one place.

http://www.arcomarine.com/

Go to the tech tips section, there is a lot of good information there.

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Postby KCKPM1 » Wed May 22, 2013 9:21 am

Here's something I learned after several starters and hearing clicking for years. Make sure your not using a Deep Cycle battery for the starting of your boat you need a regular cranking battery. Hope this helps.
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Postby taffy3 » Wed May 22, 2013 9:53 am

With all due respect.....that advice is incorrect. It's certainly not necessary to have a deep cycle battery installed and used for starting purposes. That said a deep cycle battery will start any engine in proper working order. Most folks with 2 or 3 bank battery banks will use a less expensive starting battery for the engine simply to save weight and money.
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Postby ddubose » Wed May 22, 2013 9:58 am

Thanks for all of the advice. My son is working on removing the starter today, he's a young man and can handle hanging upside down for a few hours.
I have two brand new marine batteries. So that shouldn't be an issue. The boat was starting fine earlier until the turn of the key on Sunday resulted in the click. Hasn't tried to start since.
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Postby KCKPM1 » Wed May 22, 2013 1:30 pm

Sorry but I have to reply: In all due respect (taffy3) I didn't say that the deep cycle wouldn't start my boat but it made my starter hesitate (click) and seem like there was a problem so after a few starters and no change I was advised to change my battery to a starting battery and never had the problem again. Also please note that I did not have electronic ignition.
The link below will provide the proof of what I am talking about. The info given on this site is mostly from what we owners encounter through the years and can all be taken with a grain of salt I don't appreciate anybody saying that a true story is false when we are all trying to help.

Sorry guy's hit me on a bad day.

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Postby bunker108 » Wed May 22, 2013 1:53 pm

I just replaced the starter on my 188 with a 4.3. Do yourself a favor and remove the bulkhead that separates the engine compartment and storage compartment. You have great access with that removed and made to job super easy. Sometimes you have to remove a few things to make life easier. Impeller and spark plug would benefit from that removal as well.

If your starter has been wet replace it.
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Postby ddubose » Mon May 27, 2013 5:49 pm

Thanks Bunker, The divider is on the other side. The walk-through transum takes up all of the space on the left side. Good news is my son got the starter changed and it works like a champ. I agree with Yeah Bouy, it was unpleasant.
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Postby AndrewT » Mon May 27, 2013 7:24 pm

Glad to hear that the son got the job done! It is good to put kids to goo use :D
Last year I got my 12 year old daughter to help me out with the wake tower mounts, put her under the rear side seat, it sped up the job ten fold :D
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Postby bunker108 » Mon May 27, 2013 9:09 pm

I wish I had a walk through transom! Glad you got it done!
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